PHOTO ABOVE: This hay carrier, owned by Gideon Troyer, from near Ashland, Ohio, is based on Jacob Ney’s original 1879 patent.
On April 29, I traveled to the Ashland County Fairgrounds for the sixth annual Hay Tool and Swap Meet put on by the National Hay Tool Collectors Association. There wasn’t a huge crowd there, but there were some serious collectors in attendance.
An auction of items brought in by club members took two or three hours to complete and lots of rusty (and a few painted) hay carriers, forks, and other items were hauled away by proud new owners.
Ohio spotlight
In 2010, the event was at the same place and the hay tools made by the F.E. Meyers Co. of Ashland were featured, with a large display of all the many different items made by that firm. This year the feature was Ney brand equipment that was manufactured in nearby Canton, Ohio, and again, there was a staggering array of Ney products.
As I’ve mentioned in the past, Canton was a beehive of farm equipment manufacturing during the latter half of the 19th and the first half of the 20th centuries, with threshers and reapers, plows and other tillage tools, hay mowers, rakes, and other hay tools all made there.
More about Neys
There were two different Ney companies in Canton, both making hay tools such as barn hay forks, carriers and track. The connection between the firms is murky, although it appears that both sprang from the same source.
One, the Ney Manufacturing Co., was located on High Street S.W., at the junction of the Ft. Wayne and Valley Railways. According to a copy of an undated Ney catalog in my collection, the firm made hay forks, hay carriers and tracks, hay fork pulleys and sundry hooks and hangers for hay carrier track, along with American sickle-edge hay knives, Automatic lawn rakes, children’s hand sleighs, and many other hardware items.
They also made a full line of barn equipment such as stanchions, watering bowls, litter carriers, and ventilating systems.
The V.L. Ney Hay Tool Co., on the other hand, was at 906 Spring Avenue N.E., in Canton, and their catalog lists hay forks, carriers and track, as well as the associated pulleys and hangers.
Inventions, patents. The Ney Manufacturing Company began with a hay elevator and conveyor invented and patented by Jacob Ney of North Industry, near Canton.
This original patent was issued Dec. 16, 1879, and is described in an 1881 Stark County history:
“The inventor of Ney’s Patent Lever Hay Elevator and Conveyor, having for years engaged in building and putting up hay elevators, found that most of those in use did not properly perform their work, and failed of giving satisfaction to the farmers employing them. He therefore set at work to invent an elevator that would embody all the advantages and avoid the defects of those heretofore in use. This he claims to have done in the invention which we describe in this article.”
A detailed description of the inner workings of Ney’s invention follows and the article ends with the statement: “These elevators are manufactured by Messrs. Ney & Kinney, at Canton, Ohio.”
So far, I’ve found no additional reference to a firm called Ney & Kinney in Canton during the 1870s or ’80s.
Another first
Another history of Stark County also tells us that Jacob Ney invented the first successful steel-track hay carrier in 1879. However, this author makes no mention of anyone named Kinney, but tells us that after Mr. Ney left his patent attorney’s office, he showed his patent to Johnson Sherrick and Harvey Miller, who owned a hardware store in Canton. The three decided to form a partnership to manufacture the carrier, and called the new firm, Ney, Sherrick & Miller.
The company was later incorporated as the Ney Mfg. Co., at which time Harvey Miller’s brothers and a few others became stockholders, and the product line was expanded to include a number of hardware items.
Jacob Ney, served as superintendent of Ney Mfg. and owned one-fourth of the firm, but for unknown reasons, in 1884 he assigned his entire share to his father, Valentine Ney, and his brother, Valentine L. Ney.
The two Valentine Neys held their share in the firm for a few years but about 1888, they sold out to the Millers.
Ney Mfg. Co. was still in business in the 1950s, but eventually closed down.
The ‘other’ Ney
The origin of the V.L. Ney Co. is unknown. V.L. Ney was a prominent business man in Canton, building a theater and a golf course, as well as starting at least one housing development.
He must have been Jacob Ney’s brother, but just why he started a hay tool company to compete with the original Ney company is unknown. Possibly, Jacob had an idea for another hay carrier and didn’t want to give it to the Millers.
What is known, is that in 1909, Jacob Ney patented another hay carrier and assigned it to the V.L. Ney Co., although that seems to have been Jacob’s last patent.
Valentine L. Ney received a patent under his own name for a cross-draft hay carrier in 1911, while several subsequent hay carrier patents for the V.L. Ney Co. were by a man named Henry S. Nunamaker.
Confusing. A 1904 Farm Implement News Buyer’s Guide in my collection carries a listing for the V.L. Ney Co., and they are still listed in the 1920 edition. My 1939 Buyer’s Guide has no listing for the firm, so it must have succumbed to the Great Depression.
The two Ney firms must have caused some confusion; in the 1904 Buyer’s Guide the Ney Mfg. Co. calls their hay carrier the “Genuine Ney,” while V.L. Ney lists the “Ney Improved.”
In the 1920 Guide, among other models, V.L. Ney listed a “Ney’s Open Mouth,” and Ney Mfg., a “Ney’s Open Throat,” while both firms made a “Ney’s Cross Draft” carrier.
If anyone has any further information on the origins of the V.L. Ney Company, I’d be interested in hearing from them.
I have a complete hay carrier trolly with hooks and track. It has The Ney Mfg. Co. Canton, Ohio Carrier 870 on the biggest section. On the section just under that, it has Ney 194 with a 4 under that. The numbers could be a little off as it is hanging up and difficult to see. I have tried to research it but cannot find much. It is in a 100+ year old barn. It still has the rope attached and everything. Can you help me out with the history and value? It is in excellent condition. I appreciate any information you can provide.
HI TIM, JUST A NOTE ABOUT YOUR NEY CARRIER. I AM ONE OF MANY COLLECTORS IN OHIO. IF YOU STILL HAVE THE CARRIER IN YOUR BARN I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LOOK AND SEE IF WE CAN I.D. IT. I HAVE A GOOD MANY NEYS AND MYERS ALSO. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU. I AM KNOWN AS FARMNUT1950. THANKS.
I have the old carrier out of our barn and wonder what it is worth, It says The Nye Co. Canton Ohio, I don’t know if there are any numbers on it or not.
We just pulled a NEY MFC hay carrier and railing out of a barn. It still has the hay forks with it. Was wondering what it is worth.
I Have one of these for sale if anyone is interested, chuck
If you are still looking we have a Ney Model 276 for sale
Hi Gary, this is Dave Miller in Az Want to sell my NEY hay trolley and hooks. Will deliver, can you help me out?
Loved this article. I grew up on a farm in Hamilton, MO. Our barn was where I spent all my time. It was the old post and beam and had big strap hinged doors in the middle of the front of it. When it was haying time we used the old hay carrier to put hay up in the loft. The carrier was a Ney. In 1998 I went to the sell-out auction of the old hardware store in town. I bought all the Meyers and Ney catalogs they had. It is fascinating to go through them and to think that store was probably the source of our hay carrier.
Betsy, just scored a NEY IN KIDDER MO.
Love to know what you know!
Shawn McGowan, I have the carrier, pulleys and the hay forks from my dear old barn. I proudly display them in my present barn. What will you do with yours? Do you live in Kidder?
I pulled a trolley from a barn razing last year. The name on the trolley is the NE Mfg. Canton, Oh. At the top of the frame is the number 45. On the opposite side of the trolley in the same location at the top is the number 46. Then, on that same side on the section that has the wheels to run along the track, is the word Pat then down from that across the center is the date April 5. Moving to the right, up the right side frame is the number 18. Then, at the bottom, where I believe the rope would come out is the number 44. Although my trolley looks really close to others, the only thing that baffles me is the NE compared to NEY on any others that I have seen on line. If you give me an email address, I can send pictures to clarify markings on it.
Sincerely,
Dan O
Tiffin, Oh
We recently dismantled an old tobacco barn with a hay trolley along the gable beams (60 foot long). Then main piece is labelled “The V.L. Ney Co. Canton O.” Can you date it? Which of the Ney companies made this piece? Thanks.
To Susan and other commenters who are wondering about value. No one at Farm and Dairy is qualified to comment or provide an appraisal, but you might want to contact the North American Hay Tool Collectors Association, NAHTCA
55005 897 Rd.
Crofton, NE 68730
haytoolcollector@yahoo.com
There’s also information on its website: http://lewisandclarkpulleymuseum.com/
I have a ney’s no. 50 pully, like new, if someone needs it to round out their collection I’d like to see it go to a good home. drop a line to this site.we’ll get in touch
We have a hay carrier in a barn in Iowa that was manufactured by Feeney Mfg. Co. (patent date April 6, 1881) of Canton, OH. Do you have any information on this company’s history?
Thanks!
Dave Sorensen… I might be interested in that pulley if you still have it. My Dad and I restored the hay trolley out of his Grandpa’s barn. We are still missing pieces. We need the pulley that goes below the trolley. I can send you pictures if you want. Let me know….
I found a Ney troller in my Dads old barn when it was being torn down. I am missing the bottom piece, single pulley with a hook. The trolly has numbers 44, 45 and 46 stamped on it. Any info on where I can get that piece would be greatly appreciated.
We have a Ney hay trolley .. We also have two different hay spears .. One is a match to the Ney hay trolley .. Does anyone know how they are worked???
I have a Ney Carrier No. 760. I am selling it on behalf of my 83 year old friend who is far removed from the Internet. It is complete: unrestored and has all the wheels and pulleys free.
I am trying to find out if there is a market for such a carrier. In relation to many I have seen, it is elaborate.
Any input would be appreciated?
Gregg Kildow:
Do you still have the Ney Carrier?
Have you gotten an estimated price for the item?
I would like to see it, can you tell me where you are located?
Regards,
John Ney
I just bought what looks like a NEY35 carrier but it doesn`t have the NEY name on it,it has a 40T on the frame on each side. Did NEY not put there name on all hay carriers?
Hello, I picked up a VL Ney no.12 trolley. We are wondering if you have any pictures of how the pulley locks into the trolley. Ours is sitting incorrectly. Also, how does the pulley get released?
Thank you.